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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-22 21:04:41 | 只看该作者

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需要找生殖免疫医生看,这是英国这方面的专家' V: Q2 X3 r5 M: z. C% r

* m9 B; Q/ k! ^4 e: U: EDr. Masoud Afnan( c3 R+ U) c) K, c
The Priory Hospital9 }5 x$ c1 A& o$ Q- ^
Priory Road, Edgbaston 5 i, s% s" S5 b. ?! `
Birmingham
. T9 w! N4 W6 @& rWest Midlands, UK
7 D, T# G# q! M: z6 C+ ]Post code:B5 7UG
! t8 g- C& Q  ]. G  {9 @6 jTelephone:01214402323 9 W% y5 y& L. ?( {1 U$ b
Email: MASOUD.AFNAN@bwhct.nhs.uk   e7 t, f9 I. l* u/ v5 O/ m
Patient comments: “Will work with Dr Beer directly. Will write prescriptions for Dr Beer’s UK patients and order IVIG infusions.”; }1 e/ Z1 h8 \* n
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Dr. Paul Armstrong 7 ~1 n" Q$ {% f0 S
Dr Paul Armstrong
) Z1 Q' E, J( }7 T% [The Portland Hospital
, b0 j: S7 W5 u8 D+ g* |, l205-209 Great Portland street
- |2 K' R9 B+ R$ x% `London W1W 5AH England
% O% s. S+ r/ X# n) r0207-580-4400 (Speak to Paulette his secretary)
+ y9 I, D" @* R# L% C8 Z0207-390-8156 (Speak to Milly his secretary)
" v& E& h2 s* B5 l1 Q1 p' LEmail: drpaul.armstrong@btconnect.com& ]  V! ?: c+ l3 Q4 m, S  {
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Royal London Hospital
" @8 J1 t' m0 I  w/ X7 G; |Whitechapel London E1 1BB England
- S3 M7 |/ t8 k% X4 zph  0207-377-7000 ex 2579
7 g2 E, L- [9 q$ ^) w! ^Ph (Speak to Anne, his secretary) 171-377-7000 ext. 2579
% c+ u3 @- Y+ g% w+ hURL: www.drpaularmstrong.co.uk3 R& ?* q0 M3 D+ R
Patient comments: “Does both LIT and IVIG. LIT is done subcutaneously and intravenously. He states it is more effective and works faster this way when I asked him. He also wanted me to do the LIT just the once 3 weeks before ET, so no
2 x. Y- u1 P1 I. x) P8 Y5 Sretesting.” “Does not do donor LIT. He only meets patients on Fridays and does LIT treatments on Tuesdays. Dr Armstrong does advocate IV LIT along with subQ.”
" M& m0 |% F3 F5 f9 C+ iAlso: “As of January 2009, apparently he will prescribe Intralipids” + j9 F* j2 l& }3 @% ]% n0 I
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Dr Eapen
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2 i1 C. Y  e+ r7 R2 E* t' V' P" xComments: “Dr Eapen, lovely man. Uses corticosteroids to modulate the immune system” / z: ~$ h' r; o9 [
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( P% I& L2 S$ @, y. W; nDr Amin Gorgy
; G( L1 `' E  H6 U1 G& M8 vThe Fertility & Gynaecology Academy7 e1 ]: q) M# ]7 O1 [
57a Wimpole Street
8 A5 m. z* t$ G8 GLondon W1G 8YP, c! G! `, F# |% o  {8 M, k
U.K.' N8 ]6 |7 m. |1 k/ ~  c3 ^
Tel: +44 (0) 20 7224 1880
$ \; S2 ^5 X; {3 yURL: http://www.fertility-academy.co.uk/- r' C/ y8 S3 n& C+ B0 u0 r6 s% B
Patient comments: “He used to be a director at the London Fertility5 r  ]6 _0 W8 e8 h4 u2 _2 y+ J; [
Centre and then at ARGC and has now set up his own! h/ U1 {6 G" i4 @
clinic. I rang up and had a consultation (£100) with him and
7 V7 ~$ M, U( e7 }" ^8 V+ ]  Dhe has agreed to prescribe all my immune meds. (ie
) a& |7 C% Z+ l2 V- R* z: ]steroids, IVIG, gestone etc) and administer the IVIG
, P5 \8 R* j# N5 kat his clinic. He was recommended by/ h. Y$ P" o" Y
both Dr. Beer (who he worked with at the ARGC) and one
" V& a; @5 d6 @of the doctors at the LFC.” . u$ [( P- s! j+ h1 R7 w/ H* H

7 W! y7 `9 }/ n7 kMore patient comments: “Yes he is nice, although a little on the quiet side at first and it takes a while to get to know him.Costs- well the Chicago tests are £780 for a comprehensive panel (about the going rate for these tests) a consultation is £100 and a folllow up £70, standard IVF is £2000 + drugs and blood tests. The drugs are expensive, but you can't get away from that, Mr Gorgy will give you a prescription and I shopped around for the best price I could. There is not usually much of a waiting list. Yes, Mr Gorgy is knowledge about immune issues and certainly has got me further than anyone else so far.  One of the best things about being treated about Mr Gorgy is that compared to drs at other clinics I  have found him very accessible, you can speak to him on the phone (although sometimes you might have to chase!)”& e$ T4 R- \* o. H! V" D( o

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. Z4 z2 ^  r9 ]% m9 x“As of December 2008, apparently Dr Gorgy will prescribe Intralipids”/ r+ @& E; ]+ Q* k* R; p' o3 J
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Mr. Taranissi (IVF doctor)
* y' W: y2 ]% NAssisted Reproduction and Gynaecology Centre (ARGC)
9 H0 K8 N$ c' {* p" Y13 Upper Wimpole Street, ; h- Z: J! X0 I9 w* V* c$ v
London, W1G 6LP" _% g) z2 b- U. k. T5 g
ARGC, London, UK
, R6 X5 t9 ]2 n. BNew patient information line Tel: 0207 935 3959
! B0 E$ `2 n7 c7 \* QTel: 020 7486 1230
- H8 B! u5 w+ }1 JFax: 020 7486 1232
6 M0 t+ k3 l; u% T; [: EEmail: info@argc.co.uk
3 j  r; l3 C. S/ \9 P2 K( I" s6 _Website: www.argc.co.uk; W6 ^; X8 s, z6 @, d
Patient comments: “Taranissi used to collaborate closely with Dr Beer when Dr Beer was in London. Uses IVIG, Enbrel and Humira. Taranissi will also verify good stim response before  moving ahead with preconception IVIG, so he often starts IVIG later
) b& C  W- M3 f) v) |  s* o in a cycle than Dr Beer does Unlike Dr Beer, Taranissi uses IVIG after ET instead of before ET to assure that the eggs quality is good beforehand.”
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! X$ k; I: f$ Q  p9 BDr George Ndukwe (IVF doctor)0 b! d' O1 F0 ~
CARE at The Park Hospital5 D- M: G9 Z( e
Sherwood Lodge Drive- j: Y. w/ o$ m" |
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Nottingham NG5 8RX+ i0 y& E0 m# _" s4 Y
Tel: +44(0)115 9671670
' n) d, i- }9 s9 Q% L4 G) z- xFax: +44(0)115 9673542) |% ~7 y1 i& }- P
Email: George.Ndukwe@care-ivf.com
; q; h  B7 z9 I( d5 YEllie ellie.boulton@care-ivf.com (Dr Ndukwe’s assistant. She responds more promptly to emails)* w4 R/ s3 o. e# w( n4 @+ C9 n
Website: http://www.carefertilityweb.co.uk/
) r  p3 K1 x. u3 ^( s$ oDiscussion board: http://194.72.47.117/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=11
8 U9 a  D; `: _# F  {/ bPatient comments: “Uses IVIG and Humira. Ask to speak to Liz Carmichael who deals with all Dr. Beer patients. Only works with patients locally. Will not work with long distance patients.” “As of January 2009, apparently will prescribe Intralipids”$ A1 k5 C/ E3 g1 ?* c  P& N% {% q$ |2 }* k

! @: g% K- {( pMr Adel Shaker (IVF doctor)7 ?. B; B5 i$ ~/ `& ]
Consultant Gynaecologist – Medical Director
6 w8 i! H7 D3 n+ C% E1 ?: y- DCARE Fertility6 i/ Y6 H# P+ v2 H3 ]
24-26 Glen Road* {, y2 B8 \  Z! Z6 e# X
Sheffield S7 1RA
* Z7 L* n2 {: i# r. vTel: +44(0)114 258 9716
6 E6 {# A7 H" {- z6 B( ZFax: +44(0)114 255 4853+ ^  Q% K/ V! e9 ^; d+ I) o* ^  c
General Enquiries: sheffield@carefertility.com, U% I" }' b" l9 A% ]! t9 D0 Y
URL: http://www.carefertility.com/loc ... age-care-fertility/
$ y; c: i1 s9 k6 u/ I8 v8 X2 L7 AComments from website Feb 4, 2010: “We are now running the Reproductive Immunology (RI) programme. RI helps couples who have previously had recurrent IVF/ICSI treatment failures or recurrent miscarriages linked to abnormality in the woman's immune system, achieve a live birth. For an appointment please call us on 0114 258 9716.”: V2 j  |. x9 U. N0 U

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Dr. Thum M.D.. H" X6 B& A* H5 _
The Lister Hospital Assisted Conception Unit
! c9 D5 K. C1 R7 r" W9 P# NChelsea Bridge Road* ]+ w; L8 V5 C9 I) s
London, SW1W 8RH
. j7 N7 {7 n5 Q' L: GTelephone: ++44 (0) 20 7730 59326 b# l2 J% L5 ]. q/ G
Fax: ++44 (0)20 7259 90392 _0 h8 E0 n4 I' U* t8 g
URL: http://www.ivf.org.uk/
0 X. x. A* m% E6 @Patient comments: “The Lister doesn't offer IVIG either ... in fact I think Dr Shehata and the Doc at the Lister (Dr Thum) have actually published some research papers together on NK cells. They've obviously collaborated in some way, and I think they both opt for Prednisolone as treatment rather than IVIG”..” I'm not sure what the Dr will prescribe if any of my other tests come back +ve, but I think he said Heparin. I'll let you know after I get the results”
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: i. g5 r0 L" Q1 w" bDr Hassan Shehata, MD  (recurrent miscarriage specialist)$ E! l, R' J& {3 |! y% P7 O
Harley St Clinic. Y& B* R; q9 G) s/ T" W! E
103-105 Harley Street - Flat 3
. R: m# F! Y5 W  h5 PLondon W1G 6AJ 2292  M! u8 y+ Y6 [. k) f, ]. g
Tel/Fax: +44 20 8648 2990
/ _5 p' ?# N" T8 J+ w" I1 ?8 L7 T. cTo arrange a private consultation simply call/fax Hilary Glynn 9am-5pm Mon-Fri 8 z3 ^9 e4 T- O! C
E-mail: hilary@miscarriageclinic.co.uk
/ {: `+ A# i, _% U: ]5 y2 lURL: http://www.miscarriageclinic.co.uk/index.html  |0 w* }# |) n- g4 }5 A2 J; t
Patient comments: "Doesn’t agree with LIT, IVIG but says that Dr Beer is a pioneer and inspired him to devote his time to researching immune problems and miscarriage/infertility. Big believer in prednisone"  h6 p' d# r4 l$ ^
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Liverpool Woman’s Hospital, + U$ ^7 b: n) |5 R6 [, N* H6 H: G
Liverpool, England 5 I) Y3 m' u7 C8 v$ j% l) e
Patient comments: “She has been doing a clinical trial looking at NK Cells in the uterus with both natural m/c and IVF failure. I was part of the clinical trial and would love to chat to anyone else who has also been treated by her. Dr Quenby tells me that there are a couple of other IVF ladies that she has seen, but of course she can't disclose anything else.” 8 k( \! C# z4 G9 O" @5 s
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7 ~/ `6 p# Y+ N  M" q, yDr Trevor Wing
5 X( q* c, y/ w: D' b. yThe Women's Natural Health Practice% g% S1 b% R7 ~* C0 I
The Glasshouse
# |. k; h3 k4 k, q. CRiver Lane, Richmond& V/ R% v, V! b$ c4 }6 X
Surrey, TW10 7AG& h- @7 d9 ~1 ]. j  Y8 _" H0 A) _
Tel: +44 (0) 845-688-5270
' e8 }" i) b, n( L. V Email: enquiries@naturalgynae.com
0 K  S9 d% \2 d1 iURL: http://www.naturalgynae.com/
+ y7 I: Q/ A! i9 yPatient comments: “I am also a patient of Trevor Wing (www.naturalgynae.com) who does the immune test through Beer Centre for his patients. He did the NK Assay, DQ Alpha last week, hopefully the results will be in by the end of this week from Beer Centre. He has already scheduled an endometrial biopsy for me on 1st Dec. before the instruction from Beer Centre. If your own local doctor is willing to help with the blood taking you could pack and Fedex them yourself. Lots of ladies in the UK have done their blood test this way. CARE Nottingham Mandy mentioned has good reputation, threfore, there is a 12-week waiting for a consultation, you also need your own doctor's referral. As Mandy said there are a few choices, it is a personal choice. I choose Trevor Wing to do the immune test for now is because he is only half hour 9 m$ `) `( |- H* |* L- M  _$ |
driving away.”
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-22 21:11:03 | 只看该作者
引用第112楼jing2011于2011-10-21 22:05发表的  :
2 f& ^* u  _. `; x- ~nycresident,你好!看到你发得帖子,太佩服了,也想请教你。 8 i$ x0 \4 a9 p* f3 n
我今年在伦敦做了两次IVF,失败,九月底医生让我做了抗体检查,我最近天天在看大家的帖子,发现,我做的内容似乎有点不一样,想跟大家交流一下: % O* ?" ]0 {" O0 m
1、chromosome  karyotype   
# v6 L, P8 M7 ]这是查你染色体有没有异位,如果有异位容易流产
2 n% Q$ N$ w2 c2、TH1-TH2 blood  test   ! g6 f- E4 A6 R: \4 ~9 z. ^2 n2 n
这个会有TNF-alpha的结果,如果TNF高,不容易着床0 @( t9 r, n% h7 N
3、thrombophilia  screen
4 e( J: a1 i9 J- @这个是查凝血,如果凝血太快,胎盘血流就不好,容易流产$ q) e3 g! h* A0 a5 M
4、thyroid profile(TSH, FT4,FT3)   
, m0 b- w" [& a" A/ k甲状腺激素和抗体,这个激素不好也会流产
6 s( H& ?2 |2 h( `* k5、NK cells  assay  (CD69 & CYTO)
. c/ s" c# p6 ?) S$ V7 ENK杀伤细胞分析,这个如果超标不容易着床- `2 F- G! R) \
6、我老公的DNA检查! |4 Q5 b1 I% z& w, g' |3 D
查你老公的染色体,如果有异位容易流产
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引用第112楼jing2011于2011-10-21 22:05发表的  :
, t2 ~0 U+ V: T9 N. }nycresident,你好!看到你发得帖子,太佩服了,也想请教你。 0 d2 Z' f) `+ p+ Q6 O
我今年在伦敦做了两次IVF,失败,九月底医生让我做了抗体检查,我最近天天在看大家的帖子,发现,我做的内容似乎有点不一样,想跟大家交流一下: % F4 q& }* l) Z5 N+ [
1、chromosome  karyotype   ! ~% R+ Z9 ~" a" N" C
2、TH1-TH2 blood  test   % W6 U2 ^. ~! O8 q/ y* I( u
3、thrombophilia  screen / [2 w" ?7 n' \: {. X
4、thyroid profile(TSH, FT4,FT3)   
0 p. t5 F! }( l5 i5、NK cells  assay  (CD69 & CYTO)
) Q1 @) j- E7 A! n" H6、我老公的DNA检查
你这些检查有结果了吗,是多少?医生给你的香港检查项目有很多重复的,据说MTHR这个是和遗传有关,亚洲人没有这种遗传,如果有这个问题,需要补充大量的叶酸。
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发表于 2011-10-22 21:56:29 | 只看该作者
nycresident,
: ^  j( P3 W  G* s, ^( D4 f$ C太感谢了,我刚刚想把在伦敦的经验和用的药品发给帖子给大家交流,可能英文较多,不给我发表,说有地址连接,其实没有。  `/ S0 P4 [& m. _9 T% y
你怎么能找到英国的那些医生啊?
7 k% q2 x, G- x. M' n你的帖子我打印了很多,但是不懂的也很多。
; m# T: r  h* |9 [九月底做的抗体结果我还没有看到,我老公要等我的子宫内膜检查出来后去伦敦见医生,我26号去检查子宫内膜,, I) u# q& I5 g/ W' l, `7 k
英国比较讨厌的是,我自己没有掌握病例,初期的验血存在家庭医生那里,( t+ f4 _: _8 N$ ]! A' ?
后来做IVF,病例存在医院,走之前我找医生要病例,没有给我化验报告,也是开始疏忽了,抽了那么多次血,自己都糊涂了,6 m- W! j/ K7 s6 f# D& ]4 \
不知道做了些什么。
( d; b( S1 ^+ J& X6 R看了你们帖子,下次不会了,得自己心里有个底。
& _* Y8 q& J( |1 f" o我会把你告知的英国医生信息给我老公。
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Dr. Thum M.D.# W" r3 v7 W& |( V, v4 _9 D
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3 p! V! F+ S+ g' p  V2 l! m这个就是我的医生,你可真是太厉害了!这个都搜到了!
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nycresident,
0 d* P$ ~5 m; w我跟我的医生提到封闭抗体,说如果是阴性就把老公的淋巴因子打给我,让抗体转阳,  h  g6 F# B% Z, u
因为我有好朋友正在做这个检查,结果我的医生很茫然,他说,只要针刺受精就不存在这个问题,! I- ]& w9 _6 G2 k
我的检查里我是没有看到有封闭抗体检查的要求,我很纠结,我要做封闭抗体的检查吗?我只有一次宫外孕,没有流过产。# U/ Q. r& H: n
两次IVF失败,身体会有记忆,会导致抗体的问题产生吗?
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yahoo有一个生殖免疫讨论组,你加入后可以下载那里存档的文件,一个文件就是世界各地的免疫不孕医生资料。/ L  s( A! v4 Y5 C" V: x
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/
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你最好找一个免疫不孕医生,让他给你做一个评估。我没有免疫毛病,也不是医生,给不了你建议。
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我现在就去看看
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你好,我已经查过封闭抗体,也正在做治疗,如果再查其他免疫项目是需要夫妻双方的,还是只要查女方就可以?
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